Friday 8 January 2010

a fairground life (Quality? what's that?)

Well John, you certainly have got the old grey matter working with regards to today's fairground rides quality. It seemed when I was younger that there were no new machines, maybe I was just too young to notice. It was slower times perhaps or showmen may have been earning fine with what they had, so if it ain't broke don't fix it! Then there is the technology and materials that are in today's rides that didn't exist 30 years ago. One thing is for sure, the credit loan needed to buy a ride certainly did not exist for everyone back then, but since the introduction of the credit card leading to everyone living on credit it seemed inevitable that eventually large loans would be available to people with less than solid assets. The credit bubble has helped a lot of people and the younger generation thinks nothing of owing large sums compared to the older generation saving for something then buying it. Then there is travel, holidays and television where the showmen and punters alike seen fancier, different, newer rides abroad and wanted some of that for themselves. Any how my first recollection of a NEW machine was when another showman built his own Meteorite circa 1978, my first recollection of a new TYPE of machine was when a well known showfamily got an "Invader" around 1980. Both of these had common factors- FOLD UP on one load! Easy quick build up was the criteria now. The Invader however took us into new territory- 415v 3ph power, auto drive, metal flake moulded cars and most importantly THEMEING! Yes it caught the imagination of the people with the name associated with "space invaders" and "alien" the movie, both massive influences on the public at that time. The Invader was a mobile goldmine nick named the "Hoover" as it could suck up all the punters at any fair! It had a capacity of upto 54 seats, it had modern style running lights when we still had bulbs. It had it all in spades and that showfamily knew how to exploit it from one end of the country to the other. The other showmen watched with green eyes and realised there was a new market to be tapped. Soon after more rides followed- Hurricane jets, magic carpet. There was even a time when foreign rides were brought in on loan just for the Kelvin Hall- magic carpet, orbitor, matterhorn and early years of the secc- polyp, raft canyon and spinball only to name a few. Then by the 90s the clever people had tapped into finance and we saw the big boom- terminator, miamis, street dancer, kingloops, kamikazee, superbowl, superbob, top gun, leathal weapon, super spin, superstar, tri-star and a host more I have forgotten. The credit was spending fast and into the "noughties" it continued with big apple,freakout, energy storm,crazy frog, dropzone, speed buzz, xtreme etc etc. It was as easy as Jack Dee said,"a tenner down and a million repayments". BUT it all ends now. The credit crunch and terrible Euro rate means No credit=No new purchases=No second hand market. It could be a long while until we see the same amount of changes we have in the last 20 years.
But quality is not just about age, what's the point in having a new ride if it's in dis-repair, some of the older rides that are well looked after are of a better quality than some of the new "off the shelf gear". I bet the DZ doesn't last as long as any set of Gallopers has! To be fair, some of the good gear in the secc has come from south of the border- superbob, superstar (previously scottish), super bowl (previously scottish), move it, big chairs. Quality is a big question, are rides worth £2 or more a go? sometimes quality is only paint deep!
As for the American question, to be fair the usa is too much into it's own technology! Yes it leads the way in Wooden Roller coasters and theme parks but the fairground stuff all comes from Europe- Huss,Moser,Mondial,Safeco,SBF,Visa,SDC,Tivoli,Reverchon,KMG and too many more to mention! All only a short trip away onto mainland Europe. Also the strong Pound helped us before the crash. That many manufacturers in a small area had to lead to competitive pricing and a good used ride market. It has got to be hard for the US showman to compete with that and Disney!

10 Comments:

At 8 January 2010 at 20:27 , Blogger jesters said...

I do think the equipment in scotland is of a very high standard. A well cared for waltzer of a good age still looks more attractive to me than the latest shiny plastic from europe. The long life of the older equipment can only be as a result of numerous small improvements made over the years and in generations caring for the same piece of kit.
New machines of every variety from washing machines to rides seem to be rushed out with little thought to ease of maintenance or length of life. Far easier to put your new product out and see what complaints come back rather than spend a fortune on extreme testing. Have just had a re call on this laptop, seemingly the batterys have a bad habit of catching fire! Will have to go back to my abacus instead, far safer! I remember that Jack Dee one off showman, would have made a good series. Well going to try and open at indoor pitch sat sun so will see if i can de frost the kit tomorrow am. Hope the secc was good showman and all the regs are keeping warm!

 
At 8 January 2010 at 23:00 , Blogger Unknown said...

Thanks Mr Showman I think I've uncovered a brilliant mind at work.
May I use a piece of your blog to let you in to a bit of my back ground. I've been getting the WF on and off for a lot of years where a lot of time was spent reading the presevation section,and a show man (the only one I really new) who put me on to it was "CH". He had an arcade and bingo at a sea side fairground near to us, and we as young'uns would always congregate round the Dukebox as you did. Eventually after a time I ended up working part time for him getting "bents"out (I was gutted when I found recently that he had passed on)- they were a great family hard working and always had nice word for us kids and he will always be remembered up here with great affection. I was always into donkey boilers and steam engines when I was younger, I remember some of the old stuff the rides etce when I was a kid. We always went to a funfair in a field near to where we lived where we had the pleasure of John Murphy who I think would be lessee at that time he attended with with his waltzer (who I think he has recently sold on), which was driven by lighting and power sets on two AEC Matadors I think the waltzer was an odeon type built in 46 and full credit to him it was always turned out immaculate whether it was the first or second build up in as many days or even more (I guess you've been there your self) which brings me back to the blog a few weeks ago when you mentioned "Shiney Shows" and full credit to the man for being like this I think pride comes in to it as well but not just for this showmen but all families who earn a living like this, the equipment has to be clean for the punters to sit on and have attraction as well so they come back time and time again. Anyhow to get back to Mr Murphy's gaff a set of steam driven yachts and Walter Shaws moon rockets usually attended as well, besides a host of other stuff of which I can't remember these were golden days for me and I think on reflection I was spoilt as well. Even on pull down we would have a look where the side stuff had been and as always the showmen had left a few coppers for us to find, is'nt that sweet kids would'nt dream of doing that now. When I eventually got married and my kids came along they started to get interested in steam engines also, so we started to attended the rallies like Driffied, Masham, Pickering Tynedale,etce this is where the WF came in useful,but I think it must have been a hard life for the showmen in those days,a traction engine pulling a road train of equipment with the wagon stuck on the back, a good idea of what was involved is the pictures of Harry Lee pulling into a ground and erecting his Yachts (with out the benefit of hydraulics) when I look at the equipment from those days compared to ours I still think we have better stuff than the US. The shows we are talking about in those times are I would think now be antiques , but are still better than what the US has to offer and some are still travelling. But up to the present time I think we have still got a mile start on them with the modern rides even, yep I think you are right when you say they have to go to a Park to see any thing decent 6 Flags and Cedar Point - springs to mind - with mostly coasters, but I don't think they realise what they are missing do you. Flatty

 
At 8 January 2010 at 23:42 , Blogger showman said...

your probably correct john, but WM (possibly a relation to the lessee you mention) was in the US last year with his superior type novelty ride. I bet he opened a few eyes!
however the fees he mentioned would certainly slow down any mass immigration of rides and operators from europe.

 
At 9 January 2010 at 21:25 , Blogger showman said...

search you tube with MN state fair, there is a video of a build up bomber! standing on four legs it looks rather flimsy compared to the trailer mounted types. I must also mention that the US aircraft company Eyerly made on of the best fold up rides ever- the rock o plane. The ideas on that are superb especially the dwang type locking on the arms and using the main pole to also raise the carriages for travelling-its as complicated as an undercarriage no doubt.

 
At 11 January 2010 at 16:16 , Blogger borderer said...

good day all, finally some time off, the past 4 days i have been clearing local carparks,health centres,shopping centres and high streets to name a few with the forklifts and tractors and trailers, this all happened when the council wanted ower entire fleet to get the roads accessable so 5 manitou forklifts and 10 tractor and trailers were all set off on a journey from the farm to work for the council, glad the snow has stopped and all done so time to catch up on the farm work and blog lol, showman in relation to £2 a ride nowadays i think its a fair price as the punters dont no what goes on behind the scenes and to justify the prices of ur diesel,living expenses plot fee etc. hows all regs doing cheers borderer.

 
At 12 January 2010 at 17:01 , Blogger borderer said...

as most of you may no by now im a young farmer- back in 2007 i was handed the reins of the family buisness which has been going for over 110 years now,nearly 3 years have gone by and myself and miss borderer have tapped into 3 new side line ventures to keep the income strong- the first being a farm shop which in the past 6 months has went form strength to strength, then the 2nd purchasing flats, houses in auction and doing them up to sell on or rent and the latest one which has just started is miss borderer has started a fashion shop and opened in november and xmas trade has been 400% percent better than expected this is ontop of me running the farm and farm contracting buisness and miss borderer having her marketing job. think this year will be good one hope it is to you all as well showman,blakey,jesters,ss,skyliner c and john. who says that young ones do nowt haha.

 
At 12 January 2010 at 18:28 , Blogger BLAKEY said...

Well that's a first.Showman has done 2 interesting posts in a row. They are much more interesting than listening to him face to face,trust me.
I had some trials and tribulations of my own of late. I arrive at cumbernauld at 4.30am on thursday to do a driving shift. I was sent to manchester to deliver a trailer,and return solo[unit only].Great i thought almost like a day off,no deliveries and an easy drive back. I was passing penrith when i was told the manchester depot was closed and i was to go to barnsley. I got as far as m62 and had to stop for a driving break. I check my satnav which told me i still had over an hour to barnsley. I phoned transport got directions,and informed them i would not make it back in the ten hours i had for driving time. I could go in to the driver hours for you but that would take years. They told me to press on and get back as far as i could and they would send a driver to fetch me back,but only if it could get me back to base before my 15 hours work time ran out [it's very complacated honest].
I set of for barnsley,did the delivery of trailer,and headed back. I got as far as penrith in 4hours 26 [you can drive 4 hours 30 continous]. I then phoned again to say i would get as far as jonestone bridge services and would need picked up there as i had 1 hour 9 minutes of drive time left. I made that by half 5 and another driver was dropped of just after six. This meant we had enough time to get back,and saved me from spending the night in a cab. We got back to depot and i finished with 15 minutes to spare.
I got back to my car 15 hours after i left it. It was like a block of ice as the temp was minus 12. I started it up and got out to scrape the windscreen. I did'nt realize till i got back in the

car had stopped. I started it again and got 100 yards before it stopped again.I was on a slight hill and free wheeled in to the side. I tried it a couple more times as i suspected the diesel had frozen and i hoped it might thaw out if i could get it to run for a bit. B y half 8 i was being picked up by my father and just left the car. I phoned a mechanic friend of my brother in law the next morning as he has worked in a kia garage. He more or less confirmed what i thought,and advised me to let it thaw out. Luckily enough we have 2 cars and the use of my dads as he is retired now. I headed back to the car the next afternoon as i had a 2 pm start. My dad took me out in his car the plan being that we would try my car again and he could take it back and leave me his. No joy so he headed home and had to pick me up at midnight after my shift.
I was due in cumbria the next day for a family christening so the new plan was to forget the car as it was still sub zero,so we headed of in my dads jeep and left him mrs blakey's wee dodgem car[showmans term for a small car].We headed back home on sunday afternoon and i started to notice something strange at the side of the road. Green grass as opposed to white. The thaw was on and as soon as i got home i threw some tools in the car [just in case] and headed back out to cumbernauld. We got there before dark and it was still +4. I crossed my fingers and started the car. It ran for a couple of minutes so i cleaned the windows and drove it home. I'm so glad i did'nt phone for a breakdown recovery as it would have been expensive and pretty pointless.

 
At 12 January 2010 at 19:51 , Blogger borderer said...

blakey glad to hear your back and another blakey adventure, i can agree with you on that showman's past 2 blog entries like all the rest have been great and informative, showman was just browsing the 2009 dates whens the 2010 dates going to be up cheers borderer. hope all well jesters,john, etc.

 
At 12 January 2010 at 22:24 , Blogger jesters said...

We opened at the weekend, but only just! It took a few hours to dig out the trailer on sat morn and a 4wd coupled on at the front of my van to pull the lot out. Sat was a wasted day but considering how quiet it was on sun we did ok and i was happy just to cover my costs for the weekend. As you say blakey thats the big thaw on so this weekend should be ok. Drivers hours are a nightmare but i read in the paper today that drivers hours restrictions had been removed temporarily as drivers were so badly delayed by the weather? Dont know how accurate the papers are though. Glad to hear business is good borderer, a lot of farmers up here have ventured into other work to keep the cash coming in. Some with plant hire and ground works, caravan storage etc. Farming to most seems to be secondary.
Still cant find a decent 7.5t yet, brand new and free seems hard to find, lol. Prob going to delay any daft spending until the old girl iveco is through her mot. Will throw it in for pre first and see what my tame mechy finds!
Passed a wagon leaving the secc, poor sod was stuck on the hard shoulder on slip of the m8, hope it wasnt serious..
All the best to the usual suspects.

 
At 12 January 2010 at 22:47 , Blogger borderer said...

glad buis was ok for you jesters- yes alot of our farming friend have went into other sidelines as well to make ends meet some have sadly bowed out the farming all together, but as we are a mixed farming set up-700 acre hill ground and 2300 arable ground spread over several farms then we have the best of both worlds great prices for livestock at the moment and decent prices for our barley,wheat,oil seed rape,potatoes and the best to last malting barley. the property side is doing good just now and the farm shop saw trade booming over xmas. so whens the bloggers meet. cheers borderer

 

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